when i joined this site at the beginning of this year, i was serving as an uber-zealous regular pioneer and ms in a foreign congregation where the need is greater.
i was giving public talks and having parts at regional conventions.
had started to have doubts but i hadn't time to focus on them, i simply was overcharged with so many activities and things to do.. i started by quitting pioneering but couldn't think i would give further steps for a long time.
I seriously admire and applaud you Skepsis.
It's a daunting task for most faders to accelerate their exit rapidly and smoothly, but you're dealing with it very astutely by replying to the inquisitors with "humble & apologetic" answers which tell them nothing. That's exactly what they want to hear, as opposed to hearing you suffer from doubts, questions, or even (God forbid!) "independent thinking." Keep it going.
hollywood memories: crucified by salvador dali.
have you ever met anybody who’s been crucified?
and no--it wasn’t a religious delusion on my part.
The painting was snapped up for £8200 in the early 1950's by the City of Glasgow council (Scotland) and is on view at the Kelvingrove Museum and Art Gallery in the west end of Glasgow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_of_Saint_John_of_the_Cross
https://www.facebook.com/jw.0027/videos/799049613609936/.
the video was posted directly to a pro-jw facebook page.
i cant believe what i'm hearing... actually, nothing surprises be about this cult anymore.. didn't they say to the judge in the arc that they dont discourage college?.
Beautiful!!!!! Thanks P.E.
I'm going to forward this to couple of zealous J.W.'s who both have degrees and whose daughter is now in higher education!
The org condemns H.E. out of one side of their mouth, but begs for minions with degrees to help build up their real estate empire with the other side.
Can 8 million really not see the duplicity of their "faithful slave?"
beroean pickets has another excellant article presented on their website.
it is written by tadua.
in light of the russian ban there are many valid points made.
Pale Emperor highlighted another corrupt and evil teaching of the ungodly W.T.B.T.S./CCoJW in this topic:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6204697381699584/my-reverse-shunning-letter-my-mother
He cited this reference from the "Shepherd the Flock of God" which effectively tells J.W.'s that "God's" [the org's] wonderful disfellowshipping restrictions only apply to those who do not live in the same home as their "loyal" family members. Virtually all family contact is only forbidden by God when a d/f'd individual lives in a different building!
Page
116, par. 6. "If members of the congregation are known to have
undue association with disfellowshipped or
disassociated relatives
who are not in the household, elders should counsel and reason
with those members of the congregation from the Scriptures. Review
with them information from the "God's Love book,
pages 207-208; The Watchtower of April 15 1988, pages
26-30; or the article "Display Christian Loyalty When a
Relative Is Disfellowshipped” in the August 2002 Our
Kingdom Ministry. If it is clear that a Christian is
violating the spirit of the disfellowshipping decree in this regard
and does not respond to counsel, it may be that he would not qualify
for congregation privileges, which require one to be exemplary. He
would not be dealt with judicially unless there is persistent
spiritual association or he openly criticizes
the disfellowshipping decision."
This "demon inspired" teaching hasn't dawned on very many J.W.'s yet. It's only forum topics like this which can encourage them to take a step back and question things for themselves.
i thought that wt would have started doing this, but i have not noticed any posts before.. can anyone confirm (post is from fb)?.
so i have been looking up these different articles to read for myself...one problem.the last time we got a disc was 2015 and i used my mil's disc to down load it to my computer.
they did a update to it last year over the internet, the program updated it's self.
Hold on to your older editions of the WT CD ROM - they will be so damning in the future!!!
so on our way to hospital today i see a car load of jehovah's pull up to a pump a row over.
i thought to myself, "not now!!
" we were running late to nicu and of course these dummy's take this moment to drive up to give us some good news.
Ask some J.W.'s how long they've been "in the truth."
For all those who say they have been J.W.'s more than 5 years, firmly remind them that what was "truth" then is no longer "truth" now. The "body of truth" they had to study & accept in order to qualify for their dedication & baptism, was actually gangrenous at that time (and prior!) with lies/inaccuracies/conjecture, and had to be substituted with reversed truths - not enlightened ones.
Or simply ask them, "Who or what told you that God did not choose the Mormon Quorum of 12 Prophets, the Roman Catholic Church's Pope, or the Archbishop of Canterbury as his agent/s, but instead, opted for the WTBTS of Pennsylvania?"
Scriptural proof would be a good place to start!
“more than material assistance, refugees need spiritual and emotional support.
(matt.
4:4) elders can help by obtaining literature in the language of the refugees and by helping them contact brothers who speak their language.
it is quite a step to register, still in.
old family in, good marriage in.
i dont know exactly how much to say and not let too much out to get caught.
Welcome RTN. Just take things nice and slow and be careful not to let those around you see that you are awakening. We all know how they will react and what the eventual outcome will be, if you do.
You can be encouraged by researching on this site and learning from other contributors. Wish you well.
why do the gb stonewall individuals with legitimate questions.
for example, they refuse to speak to investagative journalists like trey bundy, unless they happen to get caught somewhere walking about in the street by chance.. i remember the panorama documentary 'suffer the little children' where the presenter tried to arrange an interview with one of the gb.
i can't remember if the gb either refused or simply didn't reply.
Welcome AMdeT - It's good that you have "independent thinking" and decided to actually question what the WTBTS's rulers declare is absolute truth - until they change it.
a well known scripture says, "however, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with jehovah as a thousand years......." (2 peter 3:8) .
using this divine calculation of time, let's apply it to a prophetic type/anti-type scenario:.
matthew 16:21 says, ".....the christ would suffer and rise from among the dead on the third day...", while john 21:1 reveals that it was at the very beginning of that third day - "on the first day of the week, mary magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and she saw that the stone had already been taken away from the tomb.
@ Rub a Dub - sorry if it looked to be some kind of logic to you. It wasn't intended to be.
